BA Cabin Crew: Sack 'Em
Is it just me, or does any one else think that the striking cabin crew should be sacked?
The trade unions have gone crazy recently, don’t they know that we’re in a recession? Companies have to adapt to the financial conditions of the day, they cannot do it when Unions are playing tough guys and making the process even more expensive.
It was the same with the postal worker strikes. More money for less work, seems to be the order of the day. This infuriates me, postal workers are UNSKILLED. It’s probably the cushiest unskilled job available in the UK, they should be thanking their lucky stars that they landed a job in Royal Mail.
So, what do the BA cabin crew want?
What do you think they want? Better pay?
Our favourite union is also involved, the massive anti-BNP Unite union. According to Unite fat cats, all those ruined christmas holidays don’t matter, ‘they’ll be forgotten by next christmas’.
“Ruined Christmases will eventually be forgotten, certainly by next Christmas.”
No, they wont. A particularly bad Christmas is never forgotten, especially by children.
Worst of all; It’s not as if the cabin crew have a particularly difficult or tough career, it’s the dream job of homosexuals and pretty girls.
Look at the pay and perks (below).
£30k Salary, a month of annual leave, free flights, good pension and you get to see the world. All this for smiling, pushing a trolley and memorising the escape procedure.
They’re damn lucky that they even have a job, ungrateful mugs. And they shouldn’t be surprised when BA takes cost cutting measures, despite and because of the strikes, and fires a few thousand of them, all because they made themselves too expensive.









your comment about postmen and women is so far of line i am a postman and i can tell you cushy it is not we work damn hard in all weathers and as a lot of depots have had revisions in the last few months we are now carrying more mail than ever which now takes longer to sort and a lot longer to deliver, the strikes were about these changes in working conditions and some of us have paid the price for taking them on we have had people resign because they no longer can keep up with the pace and the weight of mail as well as the speed we are expected to comply to, one day your local postie will no longer exist and mail will have to be collected from by the customer, don't beleive me watch this space, when tnt finally buy the best bits of the company the royal mail wil no longer be able to exist, so were are on a hiding to nothing but don't you ever say we don't work damn hard, you have no idea
And so you should work hard. You are expected to work hard because you are very well paid for it.
It's a cushy job, when the alternatives are shop work for £10k a year.
I have lost confidence in Royal Mail, after I had things stolen by them, at the sorting office, probably something to do with the high level of ethnic minorities in inner city depots.
Totally agree with the title of this article.
When using B.A. for work, I found them to be the most unprofessional waitresses out of all of the airlines.
In today's employment climate, there are many people who would happily do their jobs.
It is a sad thing when people especially union people, do not realize the difference between a company squeezing its workers and one that is up against the wall financially. Also if one looks at the difference in pay between airlines of different nationalities, One must realize the difference in the cost of living in the different nation states. International cutthroat capitalism is bringing the Caucasian nations to their knees financially, and if we do not end free trade soon things will get even more desperate. Realistically BA has a choice; cut staffing levels or cut wages.
It is too bad that the dummies in the rank and file in Unions like Unite do not realize that Nationalism with its philosophy of trade and industrial protectionism is the only way to combat this.
To put it simply the UK must either protect its national airlines or the wages in these airlines will drop to third world levels,. or the Airlines will go out of business and there will be no wages at all.
This is a very dangerous spiral dive we are in , and the sooner people wake up, the better it will be. Finally if the bosses at unite thinks that people are ever going to forget or forgive a Union destroying their Christmas they are even more stupid than their previous pronouncement have shown. The morons at Unite must realize that people can easily switch all their future travel plans to other airlines and If they think that all these people they have stranded will ever fly BA again they must be on drugs
Exactly, BA is one of these companies that the British government thinks is 'too big to fail'. It simply doesn't make a profit.
I am alarmed and astonished at such a statement, from a person who obviously knows nothing of the trials and tribulations of the working class.
Obviously if you had your way we would all be in a race to the bottom. Look at the Virgin crew who earn £15,000 per annum, and then consider what a house costs and the general cost of living in this country. You try buying a house on £15,000 per year.
Allowances should never be taken into consideration, because they are what they say, allowances that pay the costs the crew incur whilst travelling, and for inconveniences like shifts ect.
The real issue here is that their are other Airlines drumming down the pay of the workers, thus making it difficult for BA to compete (race to the bottom)
When your terms and conditions are being attacked by an aggressive management who use a master and servant relationship, the only defence the workers have are the collective group of a Union, and their only tool with an aggressive management is strike. Do you really think these people can really afford to lose almost half a months pay? and do you think they do this lightly.
Rather then attack the workers terms, wouldn't the selling of the multi million pound offices BA own not be a better option, could the directors on huge salaries not take a 50% pay cut? why should the easy option of attacking the workers Terms and Conditions always be the option used.
As for the post office you are talking a complete load of rubbish. The strike was never about money, and was never raised as an issue by either management or the CWU.
Two years ago the CWU came to an agreement with the post for modernisation that resulted in 65,000 post workers losing their job. The board of the post office reneged on that agreement and started a new agenda that the CWU resisted because they have every reason to believe the Post Office want to make the workforce all part time.
How is a postman job a cushy job? management dictate that they must walk at 6 mph with their post bags to new un-agreed timescales. Recently a PT instructor from the military copied a round and advised 6 mph is not achievable by the military let alone civilian postman or post woman.
Just for your information, I am a nationalist, and a shop steward in a Trades Union.
You sir are an ill informed and arrogant individual who does nationalism a disservice.
1.) I have a working class background. What else is there to say? I have had jobs that paid £12k a year.
2.) We're talking about BA cabin crew, who earn £30,000 a year. Let's put this into perspective; the average UK annual salary is often quoted as £23/24k, with around 20% of the population earning £14k and below. They are by no means 'hard done by'.
3.) A couple, both working for Virgin Atlantic on £15k a year, could borrow £100,000 (+/-), for a mortgage, it wouldn't be a palace, but people do have mortgages on a lower combined salary. You're demonstrating your ignorance here.
4.) LECG found that Royal Mail operatives receive 25% more pay than those workers in comparable jobs. It is a relatively 'cushy' job.
5.) I am a customer. If they strike and it affects me, I will not be happy about it, especially when I cannot trust postal workers not to steal or tamper with my mail.
6.) I despise the communist leadership of these unions. I certainly hope you don't pay your political levies? Since you claim to be a nationalist. Or are you an anti-BNP nationalist?
They may earn £30,000 a year, but look at the flights BA provide, they are nearly all long haul flights meaning long hours and long periods away from home. My uncle recently retired from BA after 30 years as cabin crew. He used to be away for a week or two at a time, so if you break that £30,000 down into total hours, their hourly rate would not be that good.
Your example of a couple working for Virgin is flawed, so invalid. Are you advocating Virgin Atlantic employees marry each other so they can buy a house? you can only use the total of £15,000 per annum, which will not buy a house in the UK. Even if they earn £30,000 they could not buy a home as you claim, as they could only borrow £90,000.
You obviously do not know how much a postman earns. a post man earns £18,000 per year top wack. The job is not cushy walking all day with heavy weights in all weather., Postman suffer terribly with muscular and skeletal problems due to the heavy weights they carry.
You make a horrid and malicious comment about postal workers tampering and stealing with the mail. When you consider the hundreds of millions of items the Royal Mail deliver, and then take into consideration the losses, you will see their record is very good compared to competitors. Go and work for TNT or Tuffnells and you would join companies that have a terrible record of industrial abuse against their employees.
Again more general aspersions about Unions that you are obviously ignorant about. The Union is in a permanent war between the right and left. I am on the right of the Union I am in, and turn up at meetings to fight the left, but the problem is the moderates do not turn up to vote at meetings, so allow the extreme left to get their motions through. I do not pay any political levies, and never promote them to new members I recruit.
What is a "anti BNP nationalist" ? I am not a member of the BNP because it is far to dangerous for me, however I make regular donations and always try and debate the views of the BNP within Union circles whilst pretending to play the devils advocate. Once you are able to have a reasonable debate with people and explain BNP policies, the moderates warm to the policies, but there is no point with the left as they are a brainwashed bunch of buffoons who do not know why they are doing the things they do.
I am a nationalist, but not a bigot who hold our cause back, they belong in the rubbish bin of political history. I served a career in the Military and have had three active service postings, so am instinctively on the right of politics. I serve as a shop steward because the workers need leaders who are willing to fight for them in the ageless class struggle. When this country goes bottoms up, the time will be right for the many Union reps like me who will come forward and lead the right of the Unions into battle with the left for the control of them, but until then we will sit quite and slowly encourage our members to investigate BNP policies.
1.) They could borrow four (even five) times their earnings. £30,000 x 4 is £120,000. Do you seriously believe that you cannot buy a house for £90,000 in this country? What a fool, I'm beginning to believe you're just a silly little leftist boy, sit down son, and don't embarrass yourself further.
2.) £18,000 is still a lot more than others earn, and as stated it is 25% higher than for a comparable career.
3.) Do you deny that the UNITE union hierarchy is dominated by former communists? As are almost all the other unions. Because if you do, I will take great delight in showing you up, again.
You are an ignorant and uneducated buffoon who makes statements without any evidence or backup. The nationalist cause is poor for having bigots like you.
The days of borrowing those huge amounts of money have gone, and have returned to 3 times your earnings on average. Where have you been in the last year.
Show me the proof they earn 25% more then other markers within the industry?
I never refuted the Unions are ruled by the extreme left you cretin.
So what if they earn more then the average person. When I was in the army I earned more then the average person, but it is was a salary like BA, and when you took the huge amount of hours I worked, and the time I spent away from home, the salary was a pittance, which is the same for BA staff. What you have shown here is that you are not a nationalist, but an infiltrator who is causing the nationalist movement problems. A nationalist cares for his people, which must mean we want decent working conditions for our people, but you seem to want our people to earn less, so have another agenda, or you are an uneducated moron.
the decision to take 12 days action is another issue altogether, one that I think was foolish, but was probably an act of brinkmanship that has bit them in the bum.
"Maybe the cabin crew are thick" you arrogant moronic Pratt. You really are a bigoted fool that us nationalists do not need. You are a loose cannon that does our cause no good. as I have said, I now believe you to be an infiltrator to cause mischief.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2920289/Royal-...
There is the source, LECG concluded that Royal Mail staff are 'paid too much', 25% above a comparable career.
You tried to say I didn't know anything about the unions. Just like you've tried to say I am uneducated. Which is extremely funny, because I'm certain that my own education outranks yours. Do you have an MSc? No, I didn't think so. I suggest you don't challenge your betters in future.
You stupid cunt-mug.