African Guest at BNP Meeting
On Wednesday night, at a BNP meeting in St.Helens, a special guest drove all the way from London to meet Nick Griffin. Francis Codjoe spent 9 years collating information for his debut work, which was eventually published last month, entitled: ‘Why the European Union? – Is the Future of Europe Bright or Dark?’
What’s the problem? You ask.
Mr Codjoe is an ethnic African.
Cue the damnation of Nick Griffin by the Stormfront Nutzis;
“He should never have been admitted! But he was, and should have been removed,” said Old Knight, the elderly Tyndallite.
And
“Well he could have just asked him to leave. He could have also proscribed the member of the audience who brought him along thinking that a Nationalist meeting would benefit from the presence of an immigrant.”
For first time readers I would like to point out that the views above are not of BNP supporters or members. These are the views of people with an emotional attachment to the Nationalism of the pre-1950’s. They direct their anger at ethnic-minorities, when it should be channelled at the political parties who encouraged the situation we are in.
Mr. Codjoe was eager to meet Mr. Griffin to discuss his experience of working within an organisation which he has pledged to bring Britain out of. And Nick has invited him to future meetings as a speaker on the European Union.
It is pure base racism to suggest that because Mr Codjoe is an Immigrant (legal) he has nothing worthwhile to say on the European Union. Someone who has spent 9 years studying a subject is generally very informative. Would they have had the same problem with a non-indigenous polish immigrant – working as a toilet cleaner – making an appearance as a guest? I think not.
The BNP exists to defend the indigenous people and culture, in the same way that other groups aim to represent their people and culture. Are indigenous speakers banned from giving talks at their meetings? Plenty of European Kiwis actively support the indigenous Maori organisations in New Zealand. Is it so inconceivable that civically British people want to support the BNP, or at least have some thoughts on the issues affecting us?
What do you think?
Why are you arguing this? I don't think anyone on British Nationalist favors seeing blond hair and blue eyes disappearing (except maybe maomorethanever). I certainly don't, being such an individual with blond hair and blue eyes.
I'm arguing this because British Nationalism, like any movement, can veer off the track from what is important; as some, again, either through ignorance or malice, start positing erroneous notions of what is and what is not important. I see the reality of this veering off the track happening with some comments that have appeared here. It may be time for a midcourse correction to get back on the right track, and I offer my humble comments in a possible furtherance of this.
But that is a broader view HJ11. We're concerned with winning elections, and talking about genetics in a racial setting is a big no no. Most of the electorate couldn't give a ***k about it, and wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
Lee Barnes proposed a third-way between civic-nationalism and ethno-nationalism. It's worth looking into it.
I didn't quite agree with Lee's third way although I understand where he was coming from in his desire to win elections.
I think a lot of people confuse racial and ethno-nationalism and that needs to be corrected.
Indeed it does! HJ11 is a racial-nationalist, like many on SF.
Yes race nationalists believe that humanity branches off into different races and those races should be preserved, but they seem stuck in that phase and don't like the idea of member groups of races branching off and evolving in different directions. Bio-diversity doesn't stop at a certain point, it continues branching off, just like what we see within the Caucasoid Race.
That's why ethnic differences must be preserved, it's part of the beautiful thing that is the diversity within the human race.
I think we're supposed to be about making Great Britain, British again; as it was only,say, 50 years ago. To make it British means we have to have more British people here as we did 50 years ago. A Great Britain that looks like Asia or Africa is not the way Great Britain was 50 years ago and is not truly British. The overarching point is that we are British because of our genes. We would be British even if we lived in Africa–if our genes weren't changed. We will not be British even if we remain in Britain–if our genes are changed.
An ant is an ant, even if it lives among grasshoppers, eats grasshopper food and speaks with a grasshopper dialect.
I'm in agreement with that, and I'm sure British Nationalist is as well, along with many of his regular readers, although I can't speak for him.
So how are we veering off that course?
Let's cut the bull a moment, we've established that we follow differing ideologies.
Would you have allowed Mr. Codjoe into the meeting? If not, why?
Hmmm. So, the native red squirrels held a meeting and they decided that they were tired of being called breedists by those who hated them anyway, so they all decided to let in the non-native grey squirrels because, well, because all squirrels bleed red blood. Soon, the grey squirrels were the only squirrels in the land. The end. Welcome to nature's way.
Bye bye White Britain. Welcome to the new Africa.
What a ridiculous analogy. The man came to talk about the EU, not to lecture us on our ideology or core values.
It's just simple hatred isn't it HJ11? You're one of these people who can't even bring themselves to sit down next to a non-white.
So, BritNat, what do you think of Israel and Palestine?
I did reply, but I guess you took down my answer which was very polite.
Correction, I took down one response which you had split into 3 comments – needlessly taking up space.
Every time Nick has gone to the USA has been a mistake, one that we hope he won't make again. It always comes back to bite him because of the people who turn up. Nearly always American racial nationalists (like yourself) or white supremacists.
I'm not a white supremacist, I want a separate country for white Americans, who I feel are a distinct group. And they are my people.
But I accept the fact that many, perhaps the majority of "white nationalists" in America are in fact members of the 1488 cult. I hope to change that one of these days but I have no idea how.
That's very important to you isn't it terence, that those who hate us not call us racists? How far would you go to not be called that? How about recruiting non-whites to the BNP? Your cup of tea?
And, exactly what was this man defending? Was it the right of Britain to remain a white country as it was in the past? Nope. That wasn't what he was defending was it? He was defending the right of GB to stay out of the EU and to become a new Africa under the present regime as it is becoming now. Certainly he wouldn't be defending our right to send all non-natives back to their own lands, because he'd be one fo the ones being sent back.
When did he ever say anything about GB being a new Africa?
Jared Taylor himself isn't a neo-Nazi. And many of his followers aren't neo-Nazis. He just hasn't taken the bold steps that Nick Griffin did to cleanse the movement, which is why the American white nationalist scene is stagnant and largely irrelevant.
Behaviour is determined by a mixture of DNA and environmental setting, but still, what does that have to do with a Ghanian coming to a BNP meeting?
The Ghanian is our token black.
Let's not kid ourselves.
Hermit crabs practice the same ruse.
Like you said, DNA and environmental setting. Smart is when you understand how it works and think beyond it. Zionists are smart that way. That's why we've been mugs for so long.
People say we have the truth on our side and should always tell it like it is.
Such naivety.
This argument is entry level stuff.
I've never been a mug, the mugs are the retards whom insist on injecting racial genetics into political discussions. It's no coincidence that the party is seeing much success after most of the racial nationalist have been removed.
When the BNP is in power I'll indulge the Ghanian in his altruism and you in your sophistry.
I'm no retard either, and your terminology leaves me suspicious.
Anyway, keep at it. It takes all sorts, as they say.
Bye for now.
He is not trying to be a token black. He's merely trying to meet with members of a political party that piques his interest being that he has researched the EU, and what better way to find more info on the EU than talking with one of the most anti-EU political parties with actual seats in Brussels. Makes perfect sense to me. And kudos to the BNP for not burning bridges.
So do you believe in race war?
If the BNP should come to power what should its relationship be with the rest of the world?
I look forward to the day when me and my children can go visit these countries and see these cultures.
I’ve nothing against melanin, it’s Treason and Genocide I’m against.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PliODvEGuxI
The idea of a politically united Africa, Pan-Africanism, has been around for over a hundred years. While the pan-african movement has been involved in anti-slavery and anti-colonial struggles and the fight against Apartheid South Africa, there has never been any significant movement towards a political unification. However, recent historical events, quite unexpectedly, may provide an impetus in this direction.
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I am so glad to read this, one can be an ethno-Nationalist without being a racist, there is no contradiction involved.
There are some nutters on Stormfront, they make the rest of us look bad but there are good people too. I stay away, just to be on the safe side.
I am a supporter of genetic engineering of whites so that we are not breed out of existance,I believe in deverity with in the conformity of my race,we should aim for 50 eye colours 50 hair colours ,blue hair ect, produce blondes out of black women rather than allow them to do this to us exterminate ,ethnic nationilism,is about survival, Most blacks asians moslams, work on the bases of conformity with in the conformity,their is a differance between belief in the rights of white MAN,BRITISH NATIONALISM ,AND THE CONCEPT OF THE RIGHTS OF WHITE MEN,nazis, IF we prossue this then it is hard for our enemys, to attack us ,if any thing we are going beyond what they advergate.
Red Squirrels communicating with Grey Squirrels does not mean that the Red Squirrels want to surrender to the Grey Squirrel. Not every Grey Squirrel wants to dispossess the Red Squirrel, and there's room for communication and outreach.
I don't care about the situation in Israel and Palestine.
Israel has some national policies that would serve us well.
The truth of nature is that the grey squirrels are right now replacing the red squirrels. They're both occupying the same environmental niche and, as is everything in nature, they're competing. So far, the greys are winning.
It's actually a pretty good metaphor for evolution and for what's happening in GB with humans. Learn about "lower" nature, and you'll learn much about humans.
Yes, because you seem unable to frame a response within one dialogue box.
Yes the metaphor has been used again an again. It's not quite the same situation, the reds have been decimated already. We still have a British ethnic stock of 50million plus. BNP policy is to maintain that figure, or proportion of the total population.
What then, is the issue with non-indigenous people attending BNP meetings? Like it or not, the voting membership will pass the amendments.
If you want racial nationalism, you should join the National Front, your squirrel analogy would go down a treat with them. Maybe your condescending tone would go over their heads.
Yes there are plenty of grey squirrels that are replacing red squirrels. But not every grey squirrel in existence is doing that, some are staying in there neck of the woods and may want to communicate with the red squirrel since they are both squirrels and may have common interests. Just because they are two different species of squirrel does not mean they are mortal enemies and that there's no room for diplomacy.
Whites and Jews are on the same boat. Both are being demographic displaced in their historic lands. Right now Israel is facing an African invasion and the liberals over there are telling their countrymen that they have to accept them else they'd be racist and cruel to the children.
Huh? Look, once upon a time there were no greys in GB. All squirrels were reds. Then, the greys invaded. Now, they're taking over and the reds are dying out. That's nature.
Sometimes, answers that do more than offer knee-jerk responses and cliches require more than grunts.
Yes, but you continue to lump all the grey squirrels into one collective. There are plenty of grey squirrels in their historic land minding their own business, who had no control over other grey squirrels that were brought to GB due to outside influence.
Snapping out of analogy mode, BritishNationalist asked you what you thought of Mr. Codjoe being brought into a BNP meeting to discuss the EU, and you bring up squirrels which implies you view Mr. Codjoe as being no different from some immigrant who desires to displace the native British. Am I wrong? If so, correct me.
Funny how you keep taking down persuasive but polite replies. It doesn't matter though, I've saved my replies and will pass them on to others and let them draw their own conclusions.____ Say, what do you think about Nick flying to America and speaking at a group run by Jared Taylor? Bunch of Nutzis?
Nature doesn't sing kumbaya and get all huggy kissy.
There are those who are inimical to our existence even without personally willing our extinction. Consider: No viruses actually mean us any harm, yet we die from being exposed to some of them. Since individual viruses mean us no harm, yet their presence is harmful, neverthless, should we still invite them in to sing kumbaya with us?
Please don't respond with something like: "But, we're talking about humans not viruses." Nature's principles are nature's principles.
All grey squirrels are in one collective. That's the way nature works.
But humans aren't. This is all simplified nazi theory and you know it.
Humans aren't a mindless collective. And how are we supposed to co-exist? If we don't maintain friendly relations with other tribes of human how shall there be peace?
You're making a ridiculous comparison. Relationships amongst human tribes is not the same exact thing as viruses. Nature is not simply one rule: warfare. We see examples of animals developing symbiotic relationships with other animals all the time. We depend on the existence of many kinds of life forms, and likewise many lifeforms depend on us. Nature isn't about one form of life being the only survivor at the very end.
What an absolute crock you historically ignorant peon. The 'jews' have no more right to land in Palestine than my cat. Why?, because they are Khazars of Turko-Mongolian origin. Read Arthur Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe. And before you go off on your zionist high horse Arthur Koestler was a jew, guess what happened to him. What a singularly apropriate handle you have BTW, Agent Chameleon, yeah says it all…dunnit..
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PS: Who commented on my page that this story was "Bullshit" 'eh, I wonder.
P.S. Run along now, the Nutzi blogosphere needs you Buckshot.