BNP Constitutional Amendments – Aye or Nay?
Chairman: Nick Griffin
I said that I wouldn’t comment on this issue, but the vitriol coming from certain quarters cannot go uncontested. There are elements within nationalist circles – not even BNP members, let alone supporters – who are busily attacking the Chairman’s decision to consult the party over constitutional amendments.
Most of them are embittered followers of the jackboot fetishist John Tyndall, ‘Tyndall would have gone down in a blaze of glory rather than change the rules,’ they cry. I might remind them that, marvellous orator though he was, Tyndall never succeeded in bringing electoral success to the six parties of which he was either chair, or leading member, in a career spanning six decades.
It is their refusal to understand the game of politics that sets them apart from the BNP’s new brand of nationalists. Unwillingness to play by the establishment rules has cost many a nationalist their chance at electoral success, or power. Oswald Mosley was repeatedly asked to return to the Conservative party even as late as the 30’s, until his actions eventually made him a political pariah, this ultimately cost him the British premiership, the role he was guaranteed should be play by the rules of British politics in the 1930’s.
Some believe the BNP should fight on regardless of the cost, but where do they think the party will find £1,000,000? Our membership is only just beginning to recover from the donation fatigue symptoms of the successful European elections campaign. It is the equivalent of asking 10,000 people to donate £100 each. Unless some rich businessman popped up with a massive lump sum it’s out of our reach. Even if by some miracle we did find the money; it would merely fill the pockets of the odious barristers fighting for the CEHR and there is no guarantee of victory. In fact, we would lose.
There is the fear that the party would be swamped by new ethnic minority members, this fear can be classed as a ‘phobia’, it is irrational to think that ethnic minorities will suddenly rush to take up membership, they do not rush to take up membership in the political parties that they have been allowed to join all along. Most are as disinterested in activism and party membership as the indigenous population. However, this amendment will force the establishment to lift the ban on police and social workers being members of the party. Not an undesirable potential influx from folk who were afraid of jeopardising their careers.
One hysterical member stated that ethnic minority members will use their vote to take over. This is a shocking statement for a member to make because it shows a lack of understanding of the BNP’s organisational structure. New members DO NOT HAVE A VOTE, and I am sure the safeguards built into the constitution against malign forces will be beefed up to counter any nasty little tricks. The existing system for choosing Advisory Council members gives ultimate power to the chairman, although not ideal, it is exactly the sort of defensive safeguard that the party will need in the coming months.
This is just my opinion as a BNP member, the ultimate decision lies with the voting membership, who will gather at a mass meeting in the coming weeks to decide whether or not to approve the constitutional amendments. They will need to be passed by a two thirds majority. If they reject these crash measures, the BNP will be bankrupted and finally vanquished, not by Trevor Phillips, not by the government, but by the voting membership themselves.
Well it's a good thing your not a member. Tell me george do you want the BNP in power immigration to end, the bankers to receive their comeuppance the UK out of the EU and the Radical Muslims deported or do you just like to spend your time as a keyboard commando bad mouthing everything and accomplishing nothing?
Dumbell is such an appropriate name for someone who would (1) have all the BNPcounselors removed from office (2) Have the BNP banned from standing in elections. Tell me Dumbell what part of "Don't have a million Quid for the court fight" and "even if we were tospend the million and win eventually in The EU human fights court, New legislation by the Labour Government would ban Political Parties from discriminating against members from different sthnic backgrounds." do you fail to understand??
I agree with you dumbells !! The old skool TRUE Nationalists don't get enough credit or recognition for what they have done. Yes, they are the ones that have done all the HARD work. I am with the old skool TRUE nationalists !! New Nationalism is not real Nationalism it is just sucking up to Political Correctness.
There is no one who could write sentences like Sandra did above except 1 braindead or 2 a rather stupid agent provocateur who thinks she is being witty. I am betting on #2
We have a Jew councilor and they still call us racists.So bright spark whats gonna change by letting in blacks and Asians?
This comment illustrates the lack of understanding I was talking about. We do not make the rules of the game, we must play by the rules set down by the establishment in order to get into a position to change those rules.
The party should have addressed the membership criteria years ago. It is a sign of our growing political maturity that we 'amendists' have the majority of the membership behind us.
The judge acknowledged that this was brought about 27 year after the party's beginning the trouble is that Griffin has caved in at the first hurdle.If we would of taken this further in the courts we would of got a second reading,then a third reading in the commons then through the house of lord.by this time Labour will be out of government and the Tories might Oppose it anyway.
Saying it cost too much to fight is just a cop out.From the beginning the BNP was a whites only party for the white people of Britain.
1. We could never raise the funds to fight the CEHR all the way.
2. Spending the amount required would seriously cripple our ability to mount ANY election campaign for the next 3 years.
3. The bill you refer to will be amended to satisfy the Tories whilst still outlawing our current constitution.
4. If you want a 'Whites' only party then you can go and join the NF, until their constitution is outlawed by the very same bill.
1.why not we raised the money for the euro election ,in which it brought great success.Is this not more important than any election we have ever fought.
2.Tories will win on a landslide anyway at the next general election.We only need stand in or strongest wards.
3.There is no guarantee that the Tories will push this bill through.IMHO the Tories care a lot more for democracy than Labour ever has.
4.Maybe you should read in to the history of the BNP and realise it was born from the National Front with the same principles,only a different reparation policy.
This comment illustrates the lack of understanding I was talking about. We do not make the rules of the game, we must play by those rules set down by the establishment in order to get into a position to change those rules.
The party should have addressed the membership criteria years ago.
Go and play with your hammer and sickle little boy.
I am not a communist you nazi filth! The BNP ARE FUCKED! hahahahahah its a great weekend for anti-fascists
the hms bnp with captain kim jong-griffin at the helm is sinking fast, and you're all going down with the ship hahaha
Charming but as A long term member should I not have an opinion on this?
Yes, you should.
But time is not on our side.
Sorry to be harsh, but the decison is life or death.
Only thoughts of failure and treason can defeat us now.
I choose to win, I choose life, and I have no time for talk of death.
Please make your mind up soon.
news for people at this years annual conference we were going to put forward a motion to allow all people born in Britain third generation who swear allegiance to the country first ! Many a Nationalists is black .yes they are not like us indigenous but they are proud to be British! MY quarrel is with the lib/lab/con who have destroyed our nation put our children in danger! also with the hate filled communist violent UAF.Searchlight and their supporters . most are white!!
Do you really think that Blacks and Asians look at our past heroes as there own.Blacks will always look at other black leaders such as Mandela ,Martin Luther king and others as their heroes and inspirations.You are fooling yourself if you think that these people are on your side.third generation or not.Birds of a feather always stick together.
Not a commie? Not NuLabour? Not LibDem? Not Green? Not UKIP? Not ED? Not Tory? What are you then?
Nothing!!!!!!!
The beauty of internet posting is that it separates those with brains and common sense from those lacking either or both. Anonymouse exposes himself, as did dumbells, as did Sandra, This medium allows rational people to identify people they would like to associate with, and also identify those who, for one reason or another, would not make boon companions.
Rabid leftists can scream and rant, and real race haters can be identified and thwarted, and best of all I do not need to deal with some mentally deficient raver breathing his halitosis in my face.
So here is a cheer for the internet. may they all let it all hang out, forever.
Do you really think people vote BNP because its A multi racial party or because its a white only party fighting for white interests.The BNP got MEPS in North West and Yorkshire because people are sick of immigrants Black, Asian and Eastern Europe in the north of England.
The Jewish holocaust shouldn't be even taught in schools after all it just foreigners killing other foreigners,it has gone on in every country through out the decades.look at Africans killing other other African tribes.Starlin killing millions of his own people.Asks your self why is one genocide talked a lot more than any others in history?
if we all wake up for a minute,over the last few months,the goverment published birth rates for different groups of people,the ethnic groups are growing at a rate larger than ours,and i think it is 5 parts of london now have ethnic minority populations over 50%,sio it is time for the people running the bnp,to wake up and realise that,the noe nazis in the party are not acceptable to the major voting public,
we might all like to go back 50 years and start again,but we cant,we have to live in the real world,and to get electoral success,we must get in tune with the local population of the areas,
in swale were putting out old snout in the trough leaflets,trying to get people to donate to head office,when it is at local level the party MUST be developed,at the expense of the regional/head office needs,why ius ukip doing well,its just opened a shop in ramsgate,and is the acceptable face of nationalism,unlike us in most areas,
we have to open our eyes to what is happening in the real world
Go and join UKIP then and leave Nationalism to the real men out there.
The only person who parrots the term neo nazi is a duplicitous an thoroughly untrustworthy traitor. I've met their sort before and I have known many a good man do time after being grassed up by cowards like them who buckle when the going gets a little steep. None of you would be here now where it not for John Tyndall and the brave noble men and women of the National Front and later the old guard of the BNP that came before you and built that which some on here who follow in their mighty wake seem happy to ruin.
whois colenal buckshot,i can actully trace my nationalism back to john tyndall and richard edmonds who used to come to tea in lewisham,where i stood for the old national front,i also dont hide behind a false name.
i would suggest you look at the MEDWAY result in KENT,before making such statements,the bnp vote was 186,against the main stream parties candidate,who was from the ethnic minority,
i got 14.3% and 13.4% in swale,and i will beat the bnp in the general election with the democratic nationalists,because of all the local work,we put in here,
no one wants to ruin anything but all members of a democratic party must have a say in its running,and not be ruled by a dictatorship
I think Griffin is disarming the enemy, by agrreeing he has taken away their ammunition against the BNP, and paved the way for Police and others to join, He has done what was leaste expected of him, the sign of a Great Leader I think.
I think he should be supported, see where it leads to.
So long as rules are in place to prevent subversion from within then its worth a try, desperate times and all that.
All take a minute, What is democracy,
We all want FREEDOM OF SPEECH,but the bnp dosent let you ask questions.
Disagree with them and they throw you out
You twat!!! It's morons like you we need to get rid of. These National Socialists you take so much pleasure in putting down are the ones who started this party and built it to what it now is. The ones who did all the leg work, took all the stick that morons like you would never do (even if you were a genuine nationalist) No doubt you are jewish/zionist, you are most certainly one of their 'lackeys'! Why don't you butt out and join the communist party of Great Britain (if you are not already a member that is)? Do us all a favour and 'get lost'!!
What ever you think on this issue,their is an old saying ,a wise fox dresses as a hound,1 we need to get, power,2we use the very ideas of our enemys ,against themselves,they want equality ,we will go one better ,we will implerment genetic equity,50, 50%ism, 50 eye colours in whites, 50 hair colours in whites deversity in conformity , rather than the nature of theISLAMISTS, blacks ,conformity with in conformity,yer lets have brown skins ,with 50 eye colours ect,50 hair colours, after all being white is more than just skin colour,it extends to brown ,ect lets be smart enough to hang our enemys by there own balls.3 another thing we can do which ,will really piss them of ,is if we allow, our membership to be published before the next election,of course we will have to get there promission.Just think about that for a moment ,nail it to the frount of parliment, shades of martin luther,o how delishous a thought and then ask in frount of the media weither ,M15 ,CONSER, LIB, LABO, MERDOC,UAF ,SEARCHDARK, POLICE FORCE MEMBERS, WILL DO THE SAME, You can being to see what fun we can have before the next election.4We need more than just words we need to be a party of works,we need to plan for the remaking of the western world ,to ensure that the dominance of the white MAN ,not the white MEN, IS ENSURED,, by consentrating on man not MEN, we can argue that we are not nazis ,THIS WILL COMPLETELT FUCK UP OUR ENEMYS, any one for the revival of a second british empire,
THE ABOVE IS HOW WE WILL DO IT, BE CUNNING MY FELLOW NATIONISTS.
Some more thoughts on the nature, of power,1 we promise whatever we like,once in power we dont have to deliver, 2 our enemys will fight dirty, dont be devided, they wll use that against us.3, the so called true nationalist ,will only get you so far, you must mask ,your real intensions, as will your enemys, if they abuse you ,you smile in their face , after you have power ,you deal with these UAF SEARCH DARK ECT ,fuckers.4 REAL TRUTH WHICH BOTH PARTYS AVOID IS MATHS,we can use this logic ., 2 TRILLON MONEY OWED,the western world will give us power ,all we have to do ,is keep our noses clean, and allow nature to run its course,what,more bombings,more killimgs of whites,more arse groveling on the part of the elites to islam, people are not stupid,a good chess play plans his moves ahead.
DUMB BELL MUST BE A M15 PLANT,HIS ARGUE MENT DOSNT MAKE SENSE,WE HAVE TO BE CUNNING ,COMING UP TO THE ELECTION,NO NAZI SALUTES , NO ABUSE OF BLACKS, THE MEDIA WILL BE OUT THEIR LOOKING.WE CAN USE THE INTER NET TO GET AROUND THE CONTROL THAT THEY HAVE OVER THE MAIN MEDIA,FACE BOOK IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO CENSOR,WE CAN ALSO USE THIS SYSTEM OF ELETRONIC BOOKS, TO TRANFER ,INFORMATION , IDEAS ,WITH OUT, THE FUCKERS LOOKING OVER OUR SHOULDERS, THEY INTERSEPT ,AND PRACTISE MIS IN FORMATION, ON MOST BLOG SITES. AROUND THE BNP SITE, THESE ARE CUNNING FUCKS WE ARE DEALING WITH
A wise fox dresses as a hound,This we must do to play the game,We must be cunning,in how,we present our selves, use the inter net, avoid the normal media,infact treat it with con tempt,what would happen if we said we wanted to appear on the BBC again, and then at the last moment not show up, on the ground of their biases nature, What would happen if we nailed our membership list ,after asking them, to the frount of parliment,(martin luther), then demaned that ,m15, uaf, lib,lab ,conser,ect,ect did the same.infact if we are really cunning we will use our enemys ,own arguements against them selves.As for the establishments demand for more , we say yes you applied it to yourself FIRST, after ,5 years we will think about it, HUNG BY THEIR OWN BALLS.
Re 1: I estimate we raised £600,000 in total, and that has left a lot of the donors depleted. Expecting them to find £1,000,000 so soon after the Euros is out of the question.
Re 2: And to win those key wards we will need a lot of money.
Re 3: We cannot risk our existence on what the Tories might or might not do.
Re 4: I'll have you know that there's not a lot about the BNP's history I don't know. For example, the BNP now is a different organisation to that of the Tyndall era. Bigger, stronger and successful.
I agree it would be A mammoth task to find the money to fight this,but also it would be very worth while.If I was a rich man i would donate the money myself.Another option would be to pick the wards that we are most likley to win IE Burnley,Stoke and Dagenham and ask the local groups to fund the general elections themselves.The party has its own printers that it has bought for its own leaflets.I could be done.Concentrate on a few winnable wards and we wouldn't need to shell out the £500 for each seat conested as a deposit .
It maybe a different organisation than it was in 98 but the constitution is near enough the same.
But for John Tyndall the BNP wouldn't be here, it was founded by him in 1982 and Nick Griffin didn't join until 1997.